Episode 27: Brian Burns Trade / Diontae Johnson Trade / FA Signings / Roster Cuts

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[00:00:33] Welcome into Keep Purring, a Carolina Panthers Podcast. This is Episode 27. It's been a few

[00:00:42] weeks since our last episode. Our last episode technically was the top 10 water

[00:00:48] receivers, free agent water receivers breakdown that we did, which I think was like a

[00:00:53] month ago at this point. We have a lot to get to tonight with the first couple of days

[00:00:59] of free agency underway, a lot of moves have been made. But before we get into all that,

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[00:01:18] you have any thoughts we would love to interact with you guys. Before we get into everything,

[00:01:24] Eric how are you doing buddy? Don't be good dude, it's been a little while.

[00:01:29] It took a little time off and got to unplug just a little bit from the Panthers

[00:01:35] and been plugging them back in recently some stuff around the combine and then of course

[00:01:39] everything has been happening over the past few days as well so good to be back and ready

[00:01:44] to talk a little Panthers. How about you? Yeah I'm good. Like we were talking about before,

[00:01:50] we started recording. I went two or three weeks without even really thinking about the Panthers,

[00:01:57] work is busy, life is busy and paid attention to the combine a little bit. And now over the last

[00:02:06] like 48-72 hours it's just been like a flurry of moves and things news that's popped up.

[00:02:16] Exciting things happening some not so exciting which we'll get to. But anything, I don't know,

[00:02:24] was there anything before we get into like the free agency stuff and the trades and all that fun stuff?

[00:02:30] Was there anything for you, combine wise or anything at all?

[00:02:40] I think a little bit of the combine obviously we're not nearly as engaged this year as we were

[00:02:45] last year not having a true Trump pick and certainly not the number one pick.

[00:02:49] So I didn't spend as much time looking at the underwear Olympics as I normally do because

[00:02:57] there's a number of guys we're not going to be able to get. But I do enjoy some of the chatter that

[00:03:03] comes out of it. I enjoy hearing what some of the reporters are saying on ESPN and if I'm

[00:03:09] not wrong, whatever. But this year specifically it was very interesting. I really liked hearing Dave

[00:03:14] Canalis talk a little bit more. He did a number of interviews. And I didn't consume a tremendous

[00:03:21] amount of other interviews he had done before, right after we hired him. So it was good to hear

[00:03:29] a little bit more and his plans for Bryce Young and other people specifically. I think the comment

[00:03:36] what was it about moving forward without emotion or no emotional attachment just the guys on the

[00:03:42] roster or something like that may not have gone over well. But it's been good. It was good to

[00:03:52] hear things directly from him about kind of his plans and the direction that he wants to go.

[00:03:56] And how we see Bryce fitting in and what he's willing to do to put the support around him that he needs.

[00:04:03] Yeah, I had that written down something I wanted to know too. The emotional connection.

[00:04:10] I love that. I love that he pointed that out. It the fact that basically what he said if you guys

[00:04:18] listening or watching if you didn't see it. He essentially said one of the benefits that he has

[00:04:25] coming into this off-season process is that he's brand new to the Panthers, he's brand new

[00:04:33] to this team. So he doesn't have any baggage of having any emotional connections to any of

[00:04:41] the players. And I think that allows him to have a very clear view of the roster.

[00:04:49] And okay, this guy is going to work for what I'm trying to do. This guy is not.

[00:04:55] And we'll get into it. But I feel like looking at some of the moves that have been made so far

[00:05:04] by Dan Morgan. I feel like Dan Morgan has sort of adopted that same approach.

[00:05:12] I feel like they're operating without the emotional connection. This feels like an actual

[00:05:18] rebuild, you know what I mean? Yeah, this feels a little more clinical. I think as I'm kind of

[00:05:24] thinking about it, now Dan Morgan doesn't have the same excuse as a canalist does in terms

[00:05:30] of being new and not having been around. But it does feel very surgical or clinical in terms of

[00:05:40] there's a lot of players who were fans. We had a lot of fans, right? They're no longer here

[00:05:49] or not going to be here as soon as everything is finalized. So

[00:05:54] as we've talked about in the past and I used to coach Kid Soccer and there was a guy that

[00:06:00] was like overall the coaches and I was talking to him about the team and he said, you know, Eric,

[00:06:05] even if kids aren't good as much playing time as they want, winning here is everything.

[00:06:10] So you know, if we're going to be surgical and we're going to take people off the roster that are

[00:06:15] fan favorites or whatever as long as we're winning, that solves everything. So that's the direction

[00:06:22] I hope we're going. Yeah, it has, I've seen, we'll talk about it but I've seen there's a few guys

[00:06:28] that I'm bummed or no longer going to be with us. Yeah. Before we get into that one other thing

[00:06:34] as far as the combine, I didn't watch, I didn't watch all of it. The main thing I'll say

[00:06:40] the main thing I was paying attention to were the wide receivers because that's just the

[00:06:45] the position that I'm most interested in right now and I mean good lord. Some of these guys that

[00:06:53] we potentially might have a chance to get in the second round are extremely exciting. I mean,

[00:07:01] I don't know if you saw it, but Adonai Mitchell, Adi Mitchell from Texas. He was just blazing fast

[00:07:09] in his 40 time. I don't remember off the top of my head what it was, but I was 421. No, no,

[00:07:15] that so that was Xavier worthy. So he's the other Texas receiver. So you have Xavier worthy and

[00:07:21] Adonai Mitchell. My apologies. Yeah, it's okay for giving. But Adi Mitchell is the more big body

[00:07:30] receiver. I think 63220 something like that, something along those lines but he is fast, especially

[00:07:38] for his size and so that kind of caught my eye. Well then you got Xavier worthy, the other Texas

[00:07:44] receiver that comes on and literally breaks the combine record for the 40 time. And God, that

[00:07:55] I mean, I don't know who it was you and I were talking about when we did the top 10 free agent

[00:08:02] wide receiver episode. But I had mentioned like I want speed on this team. We haven't had

[00:08:10] and I think back to like the Ted Gain days. Now I would prefer to have a receiver

[00:08:20] a little bit more versatile than Ted Gain. He was kind of a one-trade pony. He was very fast

[00:08:25] in one direction. Exactly, but the dude was a burner and we need somebody like that. Now

[00:08:33] I think because of the trade that we made today for a wide receiver that we'll talk about in a

[00:08:40] little bit, I think that sets us up to be able to draft a speedy guy potentially liking Xavier

[00:08:47] worthy in the draft. There's a lot of other guys too that are going to be available in the second

[00:08:53] round potentially that are super enticing and I think we had talked about maybe doing another

[00:08:59] episode like before the draft, like a mock draft or something like that so you know we can get

[00:09:04] into the weeds on that kind of stuff on a different episode. That's not what this episode is

[00:09:10] with this episode is about. But anyway, so let's move on. Let's talk about the free agency

[00:09:19] process and I think it makes sense to talk about the elephant in the room.

[00:09:28] The biggest bombshell that happened. We're both if you guys are watching you can see

[00:09:37] if you're listening, we are both rocking our Brian Burns jersey. You got to pour one out

[00:09:45] for a boy. Yeah, I mean, you're wearing a 53 number 53 burns jersey so you've had it for

[00:09:55] a little bit. I'm wearing the new one. I'm wearing number zero. I literally just bought this

[00:10:00] five. We went together to the store, the team store at Bank of America Stadium. Your son,

[00:10:11] Riley helped me. It was a painstaking process. I think I looked at like 12 different Brian Burns

[00:10:18] jerseys. Very time-staking. I had to pick the right one because I mean this is something I'm

[00:10:24] going to be wearing for the next four to five years, right? Yeah, of course. Absolutely.

[00:10:29] Oh my god. Yeah, so add this to the graveyard of Panthers jerseys of players that no longer play

[00:10:35] for the team unfortunately. But what? So I just want to get your initial thoughts. What was your

[00:10:42] initial reaction to the Brian Burns trade news? I mean, quite literally the thing that came out

[00:10:50] with my mouth when it popped up on my phone is that's all we got. That was it. I mean,

[00:10:59] I had obviously there have been talk about tag and trade type things. There were a lot of talks

[00:11:05] about what was going to happen with them. So I wasn't surprised necessarily about the trade itself

[00:11:12] but and I do my best not to live in the past and to live in the present. But damn,

[00:11:19] we waited, you know, that was a very costly year to keep Brian Burns around an incredibly costly year.

[00:11:26] Yeah. And that really sucks. Like there's just no other way to put it or to say it. It just

[00:11:33] sucks. Big Brian Burns fan, I was so impressed the way that he handled himself in the off season with

[00:11:47] the contract talks that we're going on and seemingly not able to make a deal. Still showing up

[00:11:53] at that training camp, still showing up at the OTAs. Still, you know, he was part of the team and I

[00:12:00] this is a lesson for me man. This is don't never forget this is a business because I really thought

[00:12:05] the Panthers were gonna take care of them. I really thought that they were and to not have done

[00:12:13] that sucks. Now on a for him on a personal level, he's got no zeros coming into that bank account

[00:12:20] that he's going to be just fine and his feelings are not going to be that hurt.

[00:12:25] You know, but I do just as a fan like we want not only do I want to enjoy watching my team win,

[00:12:31] I kind of want to take pride in the way that our team does business and I really didn't

[00:12:35] say well, the way they did Brian Burns, you know throughout the you know in the off season and

[00:12:40] then especially kind of drop the season not not really helping them get get close to where they

[00:12:45] needed to be. So yeah, just pretty much sad. I don't there's not a positive to it to me.

[00:12:53] You know, I don't know. I don't get into all the cap numbers. That's uh I gotta be smarter than

[00:12:58] me to to know that stuff so I don't know how it affects all that but it was really it's really sad

[00:13:04] that he's not going to be on the field this coming season. Yeah, I the whole thing just like

[00:13:12] you said the whole thing sucks just a absolutely horribly mismanaged process through and through

[00:13:22] and through. I mean in hindsight what we've talked about it we've talked about it several times

[00:13:29] in previous episodes but like you know, of course you go back to the rims trade offer where they

[00:13:36] offered us two first round picks and a second round pick and we turned it down. Okay well then

[00:13:43] you fast forward to turning uh trading up to number one and deciding to trade away our best

[00:13:53] receiver DJ Moore uh when we're drafting a rookie quarterback and but then you turn around

[00:14:01] in that same season after that draft you still don't pay Brian Burns. We could have based on

[00:14:11] the reporting we could have potentially traded Brian Burns in that trade instead of DJ Moore so

[00:14:17] um the whole thing was just so horribly managed and you know that was made of course those

[00:14:26] those decisions were made under the under the uh Scott Fitterer you know era so ultimately it was

[00:14:35] his decision at the end of the day as the GM now there was reports I don't know if you saw this but

[00:14:42] a report was um released that that actually said that Dan Morgan at the time signed off on that

[00:14:52] uh decision to not trade Burns to the Rams and Samir Suleiman was actually the only person in

[00:14:59] the front office who was in favor of trading Burns to the Rams. Yeah okay I mean at this point like

[00:15:07] I'm not really interested in yeah it's just like it is what it is. Primary adjudication,

[00:15:14] secondary adjudication doesn't matter to me like we can we can talk about as many times as we want to

[00:15:18] yeah um but the the long and short of it is that's that's in the past that's done yeah what

[00:15:24] we are experiencing right now is the product of no consistency and because we've had different

[00:15:34] leadership come in with different visions and every time it changes and we get rid of some good

[00:15:40] people we bring in other good people and then the next you know kind of team comes in we get rid

[00:15:45] of the good people we bring in some uh you know and there's just no kind of continuity and when

[00:15:51] you start giving away proven pieces to chase uh unproven pieces sometimes it comes back and bite you

[00:16:02] and if you're not hitting on the unproven pieces like we haven't hit on the draft a whole lot

[00:16:06] recently when you're not hitting on the draft and you're you're giving up your good players to

[00:16:12] get those draft picks at some point you end up in the graveyard of a situation that we are now

[00:16:17] where we've been talking about it's going we are not going to win this year it's going to be

[00:16:21] couple two to three years before we kind of start getting back on our feet if we have the consistency

[00:16:26] that we have not gotten those far so you know i don't know there's there's a number of players

[00:16:33] that is hard to see them go Brian Burns though you know it's going to start not to have you know

[00:16:38] spider man poses and stuff uh for sure yeah and i'll say one other thing you know

[00:16:46] so um so his contract um that he got from the giants $150 million he's now the second highest

[00:16:57] paid edge rusher in the NFL great for him we never would right and so my whole where i'm at right now

[00:17:05] mentally with the Brian Burns situation is like

[00:17:09] i still feel very pissed about the way that all of it was handled like we just talked about yeah

[00:17:17] and at the same time um we were just the we're we were just two and 15 we were just the worst team

[00:17:24] in the NFL yeah we are not in a position to pay an edge rusher $150 million correct we're just not

[00:17:33] the timelines don't line up our timeline as an organization where we are does not line up with

[00:17:40] where Brian Burns the player is right now and that's just that's just the facts so i'm i'm just

[00:17:46] as upset as anyone that like he's not going to be a panther anymore i'm pissed that like now i don't

[00:17:52] even want to wear this effing jersey um but i'm happy for him that he got that he got paid

[00:17:59] and i also i also think that this was the right move i know that it sucks that we only got a second

[00:18:06] round a second and a fifth back for him but at this point we dug our own grave and this was pretty

[00:18:14] much all we were going to get back for him at this point yeah yeah and it just sucks you know to be

[00:18:23] it might be the right decision and it might be the right move yeah um logically right rationally

[00:18:31] it might be the right move but i think most people would say emotionally it wasn't right oh yeah um

[00:18:37] and i'm how we started out the episode with with we talking about you know removing a motion from

[00:18:44] the circumstances in the situation yeah and that's what we just that's what we're seeing right now and

[00:18:49] um that's just hope it pays off yeah no yeah i agree uh so happy for him um but i mean hey the New

[00:19:00] York Giants now have a scary defensive one that is for sure um and we play them next year

[00:19:07] did you know that well actually uh i got a text from a Giants fan today or a message from a

[00:19:12] Giants fan today saying all right is Brian Burns really this good all right is he is he actually

[00:19:19] this good so um well i told him he was they're getting a good player for sure he's good he listen

[00:19:26] the money money talks uh he's now the second highest paid edd russia and the NFL for a reason

[00:19:33] he's an elite player he had a down year he there's no doubt about it he had a down year

[00:19:38] this past season for us and there was the whole thing of after the season burns

[00:19:45] kind of alluded to the fact that he wasn't going full speed at all times which kind of ruffled a lot

[00:19:52] of people's feathers understandably um but uh but just like teams can make business decisions

[00:19:59] decisions players can make business decisions as well yeah that's what that was yeah and the fact

[00:20:05] back to what you said earlier during that whole you know the negotiation process a lot of players

[00:20:13] would have just held out and not showed up to training camp and not been with the team has a team

[00:20:20] captain a team leader he said no i'm gonna i'm gonna do my job and i'm gonna be there he made

[00:20:26] that decision so i mean the whole thing you know is just now and just here's here's one more thing

[00:20:34] i'll say and then we can move on to the next topic but Brian Burns um i was reminded of you've

[00:20:41] seen money ball right the movie love it yeah that's an amazing movie yeah and i was reminded of

[00:20:48] do you remember the scene where Brad Pitt Jonah Hill all those guys are sitting around the table

[00:20:55] and they're looking at okay what free agent players are we gonna go after we need to be able to

[00:21:03] replace Jason Gianbi yep and Brad Pitt i'm not gonna get it verbatim but he essentially said

[00:21:12] you guys are focused on replacing Gianbi we're not replacing Gianbi yep we need to replace him in

[00:21:20] the aggregate and that's what we're gonna have to do we're gonna have to add some guys who maybe

[00:21:28] you know on paper are not as talented as Brian Burns but in the aggregate with the sum of their

[00:21:35] parts can potentially equal up to or even exceed preferably his what he brought to the team

[00:21:43] his production on the field and so there's a couple of guys this week um i don't know if you

[00:21:50] saw this today but it was reported that um chase young edd rusher chase young and then also

[00:21:58] dj want them to pretty good edd rush prospects are coming into visit the panthers this week so

[00:22:08] i would argue that neither one of those guys are as talented on paper as a Brian Burns

[00:22:14] but let's say hypothetically we were able to sign both of those guys or sign one of those guys

[00:22:20] and then draft you know an edd rusher like yeah we're not gonna replace Brian Burns one for one

[00:22:27] of course not yeah and or we'd be paying a hundred and fifty million dollars to do it right

[00:22:33] and it's also possible that we like i said maybe not this year but like next year

[00:22:39] a season or two down the line like our defense could end up being better than it ever was when

[00:22:43] we had Brian Burns you never know yeah yeah yeah you never know i had some things to say about the

[00:22:50] defense overall but let's get to the what let's move on to the next one and then let's we can

[00:22:54] we can have a conversation about that okay so um we can go one of two routes here we can talk

[00:23:02] about the wide receiver we traded for or we can talk about like the various free agent signings

[00:23:07] which what do you think uh let's go well let's go wide receiver and then we can kind of like

[00:23:12] go down into the other uh yeah other sign in these things that have happened

[00:23:19] okay so like we mentioned earlier we just a few weeks ago three four weeks ago had that we did

[00:23:25] that top ten pff free agent wide receivers episode and uh the guy that we just traded for

[00:23:34] was not on that list because he wasn't a free agent uh deante johnson from stealers i i did not

[00:23:45] have that on my bingo card i don't know about you neither i know there were some people i just

[00:23:51] from like following you know seeing what people are saying on twitter over the last few weeks

[00:23:57] like i had seen here and there a couple people mentioned like hey we should look into trading

[00:24:03] for deante johnson and i was always kind of like no that's kind of interesting but like i didn't

[00:24:08] know he was available yeah um so what are your thoughts what's your reaction i mean uh initially was

[00:24:19] i thought about like me having him on my fantasy team and how many times he pissed me off

[00:24:24] was like the initial thing that went through my head you know and then thinking about you know

[00:24:28] hey he had an okay year last year but it's been a revolving door at quarterback up there

[00:24:33] um seems to be a pretty good player he's had a few good seasons he had a good season i think

[00:24:38] with bin Rothisberger in his last year yeah um so i think it's a you know

[00:24:47] a veteran wide receiver who can come in who has done this before give uh you know brice somebody

[00:24:52] that is pretty solid but can still make some separation yeah um i i saw a few charts after

[00:24:58] this came out um and it's about uh it's about nine fifty five right now on on Tuesday evening did

[00:25:04] the deante johnson trade happened not too long ago but there were some great charts that

[00:25:10] we're talking about are showing how many times um you know how he was able to get open and i wish

[00:25:16] I could remember the guy's name on on twitter here we go yeah this was yeah this was one that

[00:25:22] I mean that's awesome this was one and then there was another one that was in chart form

[00:25:25] um yeah that had like the route his route tree and some other stuff on there that was really

[00:25:30] look at that i mean so yeah i mean obviously just in jiferson deante johnson are

[00:25:37] we're not sitting here saying deante johnson is as good as just just in jiferson not at all

[00:25:43] um just in jiferson is arguably but maybe not even arguably the best receiver in the NFL

[00:25:49] um deante johnson is not that but what one thing that deante johnson can do that he is an elite

[00:25:58] receiver at doing is getting open yep i'll look at that i mean 2020 deante johnson third best

[00:26:08] in uh the year their espn open score just in jiferson seventh look at 2022

[00:26:15] best vbest receiver in the NFL at getting separation and getting open which is what we were not able to do

[00:26:24] at all at all not at all that's huge that is massive massive for us and then i think i have

[00:26:34] let me let me scroll down here um yeah here's this what you're talking about yeah this this is the

[00:26:38] dude yeah mat harman shout out mat harman yep mat these are these are cool charts i was digging it

[00:26:47] so success 2022 success by route listen i mean i'm not i don't think either of us are experts in this

[00:26:58] uh no in this area i'm seeing a lot of green a lot of green i'm seeing a lot of green there um a lot

[00:27:04] of high percentages of uh his ability to get open depending on the route uh yeah i mean there's

[00:27:13] like listen to that you know you've got uh i mean obviously 100% on the screen but in 85% open

[00:27:18] rate on the slant 89% on the curl 92 on a dig almost 90 on and out like these are these are serious

[00:27:28] numbers yeah yeah i have success on your route uh in all those places and now this is 2022

[00:27:35] but uh when he was the best at this at separation um however awesome awesome numbers um amazing

[00:27:44] and i can't wait to see how the two of them are able to link up i mean check out this screen

[00:27:50] percentage i mean that's the hardest route football right no i'm just kidding yeah um

[00:27:55] um 100% hey 100% though i'm sure to get all those boxes he needs to improve on the nine the nine

[00:28:03] route 56.6% come on now we can do better hey do you know do you not to take away from

[00:28:12] Dante Johnson but do you know who we just signed again what what we just signed ism to a one-year deal

[00:28:19] yes i i actually it literally popped up while we were on the uh well like right before we jumped

[00:28:24] on uh turkle yes that's huge i know so there's your nine route there's a nine yeah i mean

[00:28:31] we'll get so we'll get to him specifically um but no uh for me deante Johnson again like

[00:28:40] i i did not have that on my bingo card whatsoever um i kind of put him in this i saw several people

[00:28:51] over the last few weeks saying like we need to see about trading for brand and iyuk from the 49ers

[00:28:58] and for me i was like i mean that would be amazing but like okay he i don't think is he available

[00:29:05] like what's so again like i was just like whoa this came out of nowhere deante Johnson

[00:29:12] and i do i do get what you're saying like the fantasy thing because i had that thought too because

[00:29:17] i think i've had him on my fantasy team too and he's had a lot of down weeks the last two seasons

[00:29:24] um but again i don't necessarily think that's indicative of his talent as a player

[00:29:30] i think look at their quarterback situation that they've had the last two season the last two seasons

[00:29:35] i mean you got Kenny picket Mitchell Trebuski Mason Rudolph just kind of a hamster wheel

[00:29:43] of those three guys cycling in and out um they bring in the stealers brought in Russell Wilson uh

[00:29:51] you know for next season um which could have been a little bit of an upgrade for him but hey now he's

[00:29:57] got Bryce Young and Bryce Young has uh do you view deante Johnson as a number one

[00:30:07] i mean i guess we kind of have to yeah i mean he's on this current roster he's definitely the best

[00:30:13] receiver oh i'm so far just in just in thinking of like you know i don't know i think he's kind

[00:30:21] of on that bubble of like he could be in the first he could be in like the first round or the second

[00:30:26] round you know what i mean in terms of like where he is in the wide receivers like kind of like

[00:30:31] where we're sitting in the draft like he he might fall to us he may not you know like and

[00:30:36] he's a good he's very good wide receiver is he does he take over a game probably not but is he

[00:30:44] an upgrade over anything else that we had last year probably uh except for maybe i'm

[00:30:50] feeling but yeah the one was oh he's to me he's an upgrade over added feeling he is but from my

[00:30:56] metric standpoint like Adam we and was kind of where you know what was like the number one guy so

[00:31:01] right um you know but yes i think he's he is our number one dude now he's going to be an upgrade

[00:31:08] over anybody else that we had on the roster yeah um it's one it was a position of need and

[00:31:13] and we we filled it and yeah we didn't have to get much there give up much to get him right we

[00:31:18] were gonna get uh i had a very hard time with the deontay johnson and don'tate jackson yeah

[00:31:26] very difficult time with DJ did DJ uh few have nailed it uh but you know we were we were there was

[00:31:33] talks that we were going to release him anyway right and so instead of releasing him we were

[00:31:37] able to get back uh you know deontay on a on a bit of a trade so i'm excited to have him

[00:31:43] you know let's see what he can do yeah and then on as far as his contract my understanding is

[00:31:50] so he has a he has a three million dollar roster bonus that's due this Friday that the panthers will

[00:31:56] pay but we're essentially getting him on a one year deal like his his contract his current contract

[00:32:04] only goes for another year so it'll be interesting to see that's actually i will be paying close

[00:32:11] attention to that like it'll be interesting to see will we possibly go ahead and extend him

[00:32:18] relatively soon or even like during the season next year or are they actually gonna you know

[00:32:25] have him play out the season on like a one year prove it deal and then decide do we want to

[00:32:31] extend him because that the thing is we're gonna draft at least one wide receiver if not a couple of

[00:32:38] and like i like we were talking about we have picks 33 and 39 now i know i know we you know we

[00:32:46] wanted a first round pick for Brian Burns we didn't get it but 39's that's a highly valuable pick

[00:32:52] yeah so we have two second round picks within six picks of one another we could potentially i'm not

[00:32:59] saying we should do this i'm just saying we could potentially like double dip at wide receiver

[00:33:04] in the second round if they wanted to go that route i don't think that they will

[00:33:08] my point is we're gonna draft a couple of young receivers as well who could come in and like turn

[00:33:15] into like an alpha type guy so it'll be interesting to see what they do with johnson's contract but man

[00:33:23] i'm thrilled to have him and um i tweeted out earlier i was like so is it just me or is anyone

[00:33:30] else gonna spend like the next two or three days just constantly watching the ante johnson highlights

[00:33:35] because guilty that's i'm absolutely gonna be doing that because i'm excited

[00:33:40] he's gonna be an upgrade for sure absolutely and you know what i think you know dan morgan he likes

[00:33:46] talk about we gotta have dogs we gotta have dogs in here i think he passes the dog check

[00:33:52] i think he passes the dog check i do okay i mean he does you watching he's got a little chip on his

[00:33:59] shoulder he could say he's maybe a little diva ish based on some of his every wider receiver has been

[00:34:08] not every widers not dj mor okay fine but if you think of dj morgan outlier if you if yeah if you

[00:34:14] think of divas in the nfl 90% of them are gonna be wider receivers i know i know but he i feel like

[00:34:22] he's got like some competitiveness some fire some juice do him like or otherwise they wouldn't have

[00:34:27] traded for him so just uh we'll get into some of these other free agent signings just wanted to point out

[00:34:39] a couple of things field yates uh from yesbn he tweeted a quote tweeted adam shifter um about the

[00:34:49] deontay johnson trade he said deontay johnson added robert hunt and damian Lewis

[00:34:56] signed to beef up the o line the new panthers front office is cooking this week

[00:35:03] and uh so that segues into some of these other guys that we've signed what did you think about

[00:35:09] the two offensive guards robert hunt and damian luis that we signed yesterday

[00:35:15] yeah i have to pull up my notes uh you know but i was pretty impressed uh and we're

[00:35:22] we're we're showing out a lot of cash oh absolutely you know especially for hunt 100 million

[00:35:29] dollar contract but we are building we are building from the inside yep right we're building from

[00:35:37] the interior we're gonna see a center move happen sometimes soon probably with bozman gone they're

[00:35:44] gonna have to do you know kind of something in that well did you see what they said about corbid

[00:35:48] in that regard what did they say what did they say um they said that the plan

[00:35:54] is to move now that we've signed both of these guys um the plan is to move corbid to center

[00:36:01] oh okay now i don't know how i feel about that because based on for one it's not his natural position

[00:36:07] he has played it before um i believe when he was with the cleveland browns

[00:36:13] um so but it's a little bit of a concern there and then also the int like corbid's injuries

[00:36:18] that he's had the last you know all you know all the last season so i but i that said i do still think

[00:36:26] whether it's in the free agent market or in the draft i do still think it's it would be smart to

[00:36:31] bring in another center for an actual center for competition and for like insurance purposes

[00:36:40] because i like austin corbid i just i don't know how i feel about him moving center

[00:36:45] yeah but the thing the thing about this is like i mean i get that the last year we had if i

[00:36:49] remember correctly nine different guard combat starting combinations um like you can't do that

[00:36:55] and have success in the nfl of any unit the offensive line has to be the tightest

[00:37:01] and so to bring two you know kind of proven guards who have done really well right if you're

[00:37:08] looking at a hunt then you know he had a 90.9 percent pass uh success in this past blocking in

[00:37:15] his career uh his only allowed 12 sacks um he's he's fantastic and then when you're looking at

[00:37:22] daniel luis he had a 97.2 block uh past block efficiency rating um those are those are

[00:37:30] there's a big time numbers why and for a rookie quarterback who had nobody to a throw two

[00:37:36] and no time to throw we we sure as health filled some you know some holes and some voids

[00:37:44] with the signings that we've done or you know commitments that we made over the past couple of days so

[00:37:49] um yeah i think i'm very happy that we got two good guards who we know they're going to be good

[00:37:57] and uh you know if it can you know come back to his form from two years ago and let's just forget

[00:38:03] about last year then for any Christians and coming back and you know some of the some of those

[00:38:07] guys then yeah there could be some good there could be good things happening um but i'm excited

[00:38:12] about both of them what about you i'm so excited um i never thought i'd be this excited about

[00:38:20] signing two offensive guards uh but that's how that's what when you invest what we invested in moving

[00:38:29] up to get Bryce Young he is the number one priority right now and you gotta protect him

[00:38:36] and and arguably the the offensive line bolstering that is even more important than

[00:38:43] wide receiver because if he doesn't have time even if he has good receivers if he doesn't

[00:38:48] have time he didn't have time um but no i uh specifically talking about Robert Hunt i'm super

[00:38:56] excited about him and uh one thing that i kind of thought about that you know this may not

[00:39:03] make that much of a difference or may not matter that much but just something i thought was

[00:39:07] kind of interesting he's spent the last what three four seasons with Miami protecting

[00:39:14] another undersized alabama quarterback in twoa and now he comes to carolina and is protecting

[00:39:23] an undersized quarterback in Bryce and so i think there's i think that's relevant i mean it's because

[00:39:31] you know every quarterback has their own cadence every quarterback has like their own

[00:39:36] speed at which they drop back and uh they have their own you know movement patterns then

[00:39:43] with a smaller quarterback they have to be able to um find windows to throw in

[00:39:49] and um so i don't know what all goes into that i'm not that smart but i just think it's

[00:39:56] it's at least somewhat relevant that he's got experience protecting an undersized

[00:40:02] a quarterback and has done it relatively well i saw somebody though um say on twitter like

[00:40:07] didn't tour like didn't two atonga viola like almost die behind that offensive line because of all

[00:40:13] his concussions and i'm like listen yes he had a lot of concussions he did almost die

[00:40:23] but hear me out hear me out um it wasn't it wasn't robert hunts fault

[00:40:31] um no i just basically said like yes twoa did have a lot of concussions and yes some of that

[00:40:38] could probably be attributed to the offensive line but based on the statistics it definitely wasn't

[00:40:43] robert hunts fault and also at least a small part of it a small part of twoa's injuries

[00:40:51] you can kind of put on him like he even has said it that like he had to learn

[00:40:57] he was a is a skill to know how to get hit and how to fall and he had to kind of learn that

[00:41:03] and work on that so it's a combination of things i think this is just a fantastic

[00:41:10] signing and a lot of money hundred million dollars um it's not a hundred million dollars

[00:41:18] guaranteed i think it's more like 60 or 65 guaranteed yeah i did see somebody say well you know

[00:41:25] if we can't afford to pay brine burns how can we afford to pay robert hunt a hundred million

[00:41:31] dollars my okay i see where you're going with this um it depends on the structure of the deal

[00:41:37] it depends on how much guaranteed money there is but also um i feel very confident in saying that

[00:41:46] offensive line right now that based on our team situation based on who our quarterback is

[00:41:53] offensive line is a much higher priority than ed rusher yeah i mean and we were the fourth rated

[00:41:58] defense or something last year right and we were like the last rated offense so in terms of where

[00:42:04] we need to be investing the dollars we need to be investing them in the offensive line

[00:42:08] yeah to get you know number four is fine if we drop down to number 12 it's still going to be just fine

[00:42:13] if yeah we got to be able to score points we got in order to do that we have to be able to

[00:42:18] block for the run and protect the passer that's it um another guy we signed the defensive tackle

[00:42:25] asha on robinson i don't know a tremendous amount about him if i'm being honest uh i'm reading

[00:42:32] might gara follows gara follow harvies say his name his tweet about it panthers have agreed to terms

[00:42:38] with veteran defensive tackle asha on robinson three year 22 and a half million dollar deal

[00:42:44] um of note robinson reunites with edgero evro the former ram's assistant and now dc who pushed for

[00:42:53] robinson so i mean from a just from a couple things that i saw people say on twitter he is a true

[00:43:00] nose tackle which in edgero evro's defensive scheme is is precisely what we need so now we have a

[00:43:08] big-bodied run stopping nose tackle that can that can play alongside now daryl brown has a running

[00:43:15] mate essentially yeah yeah we were we were you know we had uh it brought in tuddle i think and we had

[00:43:21] you know there's some other uh ways that we've tried to fill that position but you know you know

[00:43:27] we you want to think like warren sat just in terms of uh you know when he was when he was with the

[00:43:31] bucks he just take take up space right um and kind of occupy the middle and allow the the

[00:43:40] yet you know other offensive lineman or defensive lineman to kind of do their thing um i do think that

[00:43:46] having having him with a connection evro is excellent one thing i didn't get to mention before

[00:43:51] with damian luis he had a connection with canalus being uh playing um under canalus when canalus was in

[00:43:58] cial and was with that's right yeah awesome and jino smith so there's a there's a there's a theme

[00:44:04] developing here we've got another guy to talk about here in just one second um that is being reunited

[00:44:09] with the coach too so you know if he can if he can fill that role then that's a really really

[00:44:16] important thing in the in the three four yep hundred percent i like the signing um this may have

[00:44:23] been who you're referring to but um joe c jewel linebacker from the denver broncos i personally had

[00:44:33] never even heard of him i had to look up you know like i had i knew nothing about him i was like hey

[00:44:38] cool we signed a linebacker because you know we just lost frankie luvoo who we'll talk about in a

[00:44:44] couple minutes but um look at that's pretty impressive 73.6 pf grade since 2021 19th among all

[00:44:51] linebackers so top 20 linebacker in the nfl according to pf f over the last what two seasons three

[00:45:00] season um yeah i mean again he he has ties to evro again yeah and and and money saving move right

[00:45:12] cheaper than louvoo cheaper you know we're seeing that in a couple of different places you know trying to

[00:45:17] feel similar role but but cheaper um and but the important part that differentiates it is these

[00:45:25] guys are known quantities to the coaches and the front office staff that are that are choosing them

[00:45:32] general fans of like us don't know you know random what uh you know linebackers that are playing for

[00:45:40] the broncos we just don't know those things but evroshers hell knows them right and and if evros says

[00:45:46] let's go get that guy yeah i believe in him i want to i want to coach him again yep let's see what

[00:45:52] they can do he's not gonna bring in he's not gonna bring in a player he doesn't believe it's gonna work

[00:45:55] right yeah and i that's the other thing so i mentioned earlier we talked about the emotional connection

[00:46:02] thing how like like that's one thing that we really really like about the process seemingly

[00:46:09] that morgan and canalists are going through another thing i love just about this process which is

[00:46:15] kind of like you know obvious it's an obvious thing but it's important is that it seems like

[00:46:22] they're going out and getting guys that on the offensive side the david canalists that fit his

[00:46:28] system probably guys that he wants and they're going out and getting guys that edgero ever wants

[00:46:34] on his defense in his system guys that he's familiar with um whereas you know i last year when

[00:46:42] edgero ever came on board he inherited a lot of players and he had to kind of figure out

[00:46:50] you know okay how are these guys gonna work in my system how am i gonna utilize them

[00:46:56] a perfect example of a of a player that like you would have never thought this would have happened to

[00:47:04] Jeremy chin a guy who like he was a he was a key player for us for a couple seasons and then

[00:47:11] ever it gets here and he plays like what on the season he probably played what like 30 or 40

[00:47:16] percent of the snaps or something like that and uh now he's gone um but i just i don't know man

[00:47:24] i i know the brine burns trade sucks but um with the free agent signings that they've made

[00:47:33] i really like what they're doing i like the direction that they're headed and i tweeted out earlier

[00:47:39] something along the lines of like so far i know it's early but

[00:47:46] i feel like there's not a ton else that dan morgan could have done to sort of counteract

[00:47:54] the disappointment and the hurt feelings with fans about the brine burns trade up to this point

[00:48:02] like as we've made quite a few really good moves we're getting praise from you know national

[00:48:10] media guys about the moves that dan morgan is making and so and we're not done like we're

[00:48:15] nowhere close to being done uh as far as building this team so i'm i'm happy like i'm content i'm

[00:48:21] impressed so far with what they're doing um i think that's it as far as as far as the the free agent

[00:48:32] signings so far um we're coming up on an hour here already but we can kind of briefly touch on

[00:48:44] some of the like current we're no longer current but some of the panthers players that are looks

[00:48:49] like we're moving on from if you want to yeah let's do it okay so

[00:48:58] um we got to start with we got to start with frankie lubu that is just i mean i know i know he was

[00:49:06] one of your favorite players yeah um me too i think i think just for a lot of people uh the guy was

[00:49:15] like i really legitimately looked at brine burns Derek brown and frankie lubu as our

[00:49:24] like core core yep defensive pieces and you could maybe throw jc horn in there born he's

[00:49:30] so interrupulous years yeah no no doubt jc horn is is an elite cornerback he just needs to stay

[00:49:37] fantastic yep but man it sucks to lose lubu and i don't know if you saw the report but

[00:49:44] it was reported that um the panthers were trying to make a late push to resign lubu but ultimately

[00:49:54] he was a free agent and he made the decision to go somewhere else because he wanted he wanted

[00:50:00] the different he wanted to change his scenery he was he was intrigued by dan quince scheme in

[00:50:07] washington um so you can't blame him uh but it yeah yeah i'm obviously i've been a big lubu fan

[00:50:17] since before it was cool but he's um you know i just remember watching him he wasn't a known

[00:50:24] quantity he was coming off the bench and you would just see number 49 go flying through your screen

[00:50:31] you know like it just you know die whatever he was one of those guys that when you watched him

[00:50:37] i'll he you could tell he was literally giving it everything and put his body on the line

[00:50:42] and that's the type of football that i think fans like to see especially when it's on your team

[00:50:48] and you have guys that are putting in that much effort so to see him go really really sucks but this is

[00:50:55] we're we're reeping um that we're kind of getting the tempered treatment you know what i mean

[00:51:02] we've we're not in a great place we haven't been uh we haven't been winning

[00:51:07] we've got an owner who nobody has said a nice thing about in i can't remember how long

[00:51:13] right and you have unproven quantities in a gm and an unproven quantity relatively in a new head

[00:51:20] coach and uh you know an a new offensive coordinator or whatever so if i'm a free agent

[00:51:27] and i'm looking at places to go carolina is going to have attacks oh absolutely

[00:51:34] yeah you know you're gonna have to pay me a hell of a lot more money to go get my ass kicked for the

[00:51:39] next 17 games as opposed to one run got a 50 50 shot of making the playoffs hence why we paid

[00:51:46] the Miami guy it's 100 $100 bucks yeah yeah it's that we're just called the tempertacks but

[00:51:53] you know you have to pay it in order to get people here and if i was louvue or brine burns or whatever

[00:52:01] you know every time tepro threw a drink at a fan the price went up um and this is that that's what

[00:52:11] has what led us to hear because i don't know we if we if we just had a crappy team but everybody felt

[00:52:18] like the the front office and the you know all the leadership was in a great place yeah we're 100

[00:52:24] percent confident in that then it's gonna be easier to sign people but players want some stability

[00:52:31] because they can be cut at any time and you know kind of anything like that can happen yeah and we

[00:52:36] do not project stability we're literally as far away from that as you can get right news flash news

[00:52:44] flash yeah i mean you counsel made a saying yeah you're right you're right uh another guy we lost

[00:52:51] to the commanders Jeremy chin um that was always i'm not saying like i really like to

[00:52:58] Jeremy chin um i thought he his first couple years with us were awesome uh but for whatever

[00:53:05] reason he didn't fit into everose scheme um so yeah that gets him to the like those have like the

[00:53:11] exes on the oes of the of the game that i just don't understand right like i have i have i have a

[00:53:16] different job i don't know i don't know all i don't need to know all of that stuff yeah um but

[00:53:23] it really sucks you know he was second in the defense of rookie of the year after chase young who

[00:53:28] just mentioned possibly coming in so he was a great player first couple of years were awesome it

[00:53:34] it was one of the it was one of the big surprises for me i truly thought that having the three four

[00:53:41] was gonna give more opportunity for Jeremy chin me too man not not less opportunity for Jeremy chin

[00:53:46] and so i was absolutely shocked at in the way or the lack thereof that we used him last year um

[00:53:54] and bringing it back everose just pretty much signed that you know he kind of signed chin uh

[00:54:00] chin going somewhere else so yeah i hate it because i did enjoy watching in play especially when

[00:54:05] he was you know doing some some high flying stuff um but i do wish him luck because he uh he was a

[00:54:12] good player i enjoyed watching him yep same van bell there was an ounce that the team was gonna release

[00:54:21] him i mean he that was weird right is kind of is very unexpected because he played a big role last

[00:54:27] year and you and we just signed him to a three-year deal he played you know he played well uh

[00:54:33] i i didn't get it i did not understand when i saw that and i still don't quite frankly now

[00:54:40] if you have any insight how i don't that's that's a head scratcher for me and safety safety now

[00:54:47] becomes a key hole like a need for us yeah i thought we were kind of set like i did that was not my

[00:54:55] bingo card of things that we were gonna have to be filling uh you know i was shocked we had you

[00:55:00] know van bell as aviards back there so i don't know i've seen a couple couple free agent names

[00:55:08] thrown around have got guys the panthers could sign so like i said we're not we're not done

[00:55:13] and they could sign somebody in free agency to replace him um just kind of a little bit of a head

[00:55:19] scratcher there uh Bradley bozeman another player that they're gonna probably release it's uh

[00:55:25] bozeman is um you know he's a he's a great dude great family um great for the community

[00:55:32] and he's done a lot of you know not this past season but the previous season he was fantastic

[00:55:38] yeah exactly but last season under with that scheme specifically he struggled like

[00:55:45] mightily he was not good last year

[00:55:50] yeah which but i know the well the entire offensive line was shit last year

[00:55:55] except for daler mode and taylor mode and have except a pretty good season you're right but

[00:55:58] when everybody else around him is that terrible you know like you're still making up for everybody

[00:56:04] else right yeah so but it did suck because i know that bozeman was big in the community down in

[00:56:11] charlotte yeah there was a tremendous amount of talk about him and his family like making it their home

[00:56:16] and yeah and all of that and um after his first year i thought that it was kind of a match made in

[00:56:22] heaven he was playing really well he loved the the community the community you loved him

[00:56:26] yeah um but it just if he plays bad as he did last year especially as the center

[00:56:34] who's supposed to be calling protections and doing all those things

[00:56:38] to have an offensive line that played as poorly as as ours did

[00:56:43] you this this kind of votes a forced move right like you can't justify keeping him yeah um

[00:56:49] if you're looking at it without emotion involved in in the decision

[00:56:54] yeah he doesn't so i think the reason that he struggled or at least part of the reason

[00:57:00] last year was he doesn't move well we we had a lot of zone running schemes last year

[00:57:08] my understanding um whereas the previous season it was more of a power north south run scheme

[00:57:15] when we had so much success with deante formin and tuba hovered um you know especially the back half

[00:57:21] of that season when steve wilks took over should have gotten coaching opportunity um

[00:57:26] uh but no bozman just like he didn't fit that scheme and he also based on what i've heard

[00:57:35] how i've heard david canalus kind of talk about his offensive scheme and the way he approaches the

[00:57:39] run game he also was not going to fit with that either so um again back to what we said earlier

[00:57:46] like it really seems like they're getting rid of that emotional connection they're trying to just

[00:57:52] approach it from like who were the guys that are going to fit what david canalus wants to do

[00:57:58] yeah and let's let's go that route you know yeah it just sucks to cut the Walter Peyton man

[00:58:05] of the year you know like he was our nominee our nominee yeah um yeah it's off that

[00:58:10] that's just kind of sucks but i'm i again every year at about this time we're remembered that

[00:58:16] the NFL above all else is a business yeah absolutely more of all else it's a bit it sucks but at

[00:58:23] the same time it does suck but i'm kind of glad it happened because yeah i i i don't remember

[00:58:31] specifically what it was but at some point after the season i believe i saw something that like he

[00:58:37] he was one of the he allowed like he's like top three or top two or something in like sacks

[00:58:47] repressures allowed at for the center position in the NFL last season like he he was bad he was just

[00:58:53] he didn't like he was not good yeah so um i think it was a good move uh

[00:58:58] uh he and Thomas still still going strong uh the sticker

[00:59:06] I don't understand i he's a good blocker he's a good blocker that's i maybe that's

[00:59:13] I don't understand it i have nothing against the man he he's in um he in the in the wider scheme

[00:59:22] of things across the population the dude is an amazing football player but i don't understand why

[00:59:28] we we keep kind of going back to this like he hasn't can i don't know there's not much that he's

[00:59:34] contributed not and as soon as i saw that we were resigning him i didn't i just didn't get it

[00:59:42] well i guess so like speaking sticking on the tight end position we Hayden Hurst

[00:59:48] mm-hmm we we we're parting ways with Hayden Hurst which that that honestly makes sense

[00:59:53] um i think i still think that Tommy Trimble has has some ability um i think he improved latched like

[01:00:02] honestly there was a period of time where he was one of one of the more reliable targets for brisium

[01:00:09] last season yeah and now i'm not saying you know Tommy Trimble's like the second coming of

[01:00:16] Travis Kelsey or anything but um i think i think Tommy Trimble is still in her contract and

[01:00:23] is gonna is gonna be around tomas he's a blocking specialist like he he's just not he's not a pass

[01:00:30] catching tight end what what was it remember that one game i think it was a lion's game last season

[01:00:36] where they called us scream to Ian Thomas and brisce tried to dump it off to tomas and

[01:00:44] Aiden Hutchinson for the lion the defensive end just like just intercepted it it was just like a

[01:00:51] horrible play and we were like frank rake why are you calling a screen for Ian Thomas behind

[01:00:58] the line of script like what do you do and so hopefully we see no more of that i really i think

[01:01:04] Dave can Alice is probably smart enough to know that like he's gonna use Ian Thomas for what

[01:01:10] he's good at hopefully which is blocking i mean i i hope so um because he is a good block he is

[01:01:17] a good blocking tight end that is that is true uh anyway um one other one that i had written down

[01:01:25] was Troy Hill uh i really thought that i think that's a good resigning because he had he had some good

[01:01:33] he had some good performances last year he he came on and uh he he was one of the guys that kind

[01:01:38] of surprised me last year at cornerback and um have some good contributions yeah i think that um

[01:01:48] he was a good signing he played in 16 games i think um and was just consistent and getting rid

[01:01:56] of um Dante Jackson we're gonna have to have some consistency um you know on the other side

[01:02:05] from from a cornerback perspective so yeah it was i was happy to see him back he seems like he

[01:02:12] he fits in he's obviously good with the scheme he performed well in everose system last year

[01:02:17] yeah makes sense to bring him back no problem um i had one more uh one more of the guys that are

[01:02:24] coming back i wanted to at least uh to shout out here um JJ jansom looks like we're gonna get some more

[01:02:30] cart time on uh on youtube this year yeah i always enjoyed that kind of thing so um you know

[01:02:37] you know jj he's been around since 2009 or something like that he has almost a flawless record

[01:02:44] and you know his long snaps and while Chris taper isn't here with us anymore not that he's dead

[01:02:52] he's just not in carolina all right be all right but then what that means is we're gonna have jj jansom

[01:03:00] johnny hacker and eddie panero all coming back which from a special team standpoint it was

[01:03:09] it was pretty good let's let's not screw that you know i'm saying like yeah let's not screw that

[01:03:13] up let's have some consistency in the kicking game and whatever else let's not add additional headaches

[01:03:18] but jj jansom fan favorite um you know he is he's one of the best long snappers if not be the best

[01:03:25] long snapper in the league um so anyway i was glad that we were able to sign them again for another

[01:03:29] one year deal i'm sure you'll retire after next year or something yeah i can't help but chuckle

[01:03:35] at just having like a discussion about the best long snapper i know but listen but listen

[01:03:42] it's i'm not doing the research i'm just no i know it's just the the things that i read

[01:03:48] listen talk to about him and i think it's i think that he is kind of a known quantity and

[01:03:53] yeah for sure who he is and you know it's good to have neck it is it is and it's

[01:03:59] i'm i'm all on the jj janssen train like keeping keep him in carolina as i want him to have a 35

[01:04:06] year career in carolina yep and it's funny do it i have i tweeted out earlier like so i tweeted

[01:04:15] out a picture of Bryce Young and i said so i guess this is the only safe jersey to own at least

[01:04:22] for the foreseeable future if you're a pan possible but then somebody commented and they were like hey

[01:04:27] don't forget about janssen don't forget about janssen i was like you know what yes you're right

[01:04:33] you are right i don't know if they sell janssen jerseys but you'd you'd have to get one custom

[01:04:38] made but sure yep yes that's the right it's like john kacy yeah wasn't that the field goal kicker

[01:04:46] that was here for there's like a last original panther yeah he was there for a safe jersey number to

[01:04:51] have absolutely and then one more thing because i just want to mention it again we kind of briefly

[01:04:59] but i'm just so thrilled that they resigned i sm emir smith marcia i just think that's a smart move because

[01:05:07] by the end of the season he was the most exciting receiver that we had on the roster at 100%

[01:05:16] so i mean he he talked about how great it was to be able to play with Bryce and yeah that's one

[01:05:23] of the reasons why he wanted to come back was because he loved playing with Bryce and he said

[01:05:29] to see what he's able to do like up close and in person there's something special and i want to

[01:05:34] come back and play with him so that was that was pretty cool but he you know he flashed in the

[01:05:39] preseason we went out and got him and they did absolutely jack shit with him because he wasn't

[01:05:45] yet yeah he wouldn't get an opportunity he was he wasn't even on the field you know um and so then

[01:05:50] they finally started letting them do his thing and then a couple of plays here and there on offense

[01:05:55] and you know he made some mistakes he's you know he certainly he's not like one of the best

[01:06:00] water seepers out there but he was exciting to watch and that's something that we kind of need

[01:06:06] right now because it's been a bit of a snooze fest um if you are rooting for the panthers it was

[01:06:11] much more exciting if you're rooting for our opponents yeah and he's multifaceted like he can return

[01:06:17] points he can do the the jet sweeps and the screen game and he also has some speed and can stretch

[01:06:26] the field um so he just yeah he's so now we're looking at a wider seaver room as it currently stands

[01:06:34] we know Jonathan Mingo is going to be here we know Deontay Johnson is here now uh

[01:06:43] Emir Smith Marset hopefully he gets a little bit more of an opportunity this year this coming

[01:06:49] season than he did last season um Adam feeling is technically still a panther but like I don't know

[01:06:57] how confident i am that that's going to be the case when the season comes out yeah I mean if

[01:07:02] if if if he decides he wants to play again then uh then okay but if we're not going to make him like

[01:07:08] a big part of the offense I don't know why he wouldn't just you know ask basically to um be cut and

[01:07:15] sign a one-year deal or something with with the Vikings I don't know how that works for like

[01:07:19] the cow we ain't cutting them now we're trading but i'm just saying like but if he decides he's done

[01:07:23] he's like i don't want to i don't want to play anymore like you know like retired i don't want to

[01:07:29] yeah i mean just he's he's he's getting a little bit older not that he's lost all of his steps but

[01:07:33] i'm just saying if he's like hey i could i could i have plenty of money i could go often kind of do

[01:07:39] my own thing and just retire and be done with it um and not have you know the next five six seven eight

[01:07:46] months whatever it can end up being of getting our asses kicked like like he did last year like he

[01:07:52] didn't come to the panthers to go two and fifteen right like that was not that was not the intention

[01:07:58] and if he's looking at the year ahead and deciding is it worth it you know like that that has to

[01:08:06] at least cross his mind at some point i don't know if you if i if if i was him i probably would but

[01:08:12] i also don't have that much money you know i'm not that good at something so um

[01:08:18] I think to get you know obviously there has to be a drive and competitiveness and everything but

[01:08:23] i don't know if i was if i was him and it had been a rough year last year and maybe this year is

[01:08:30] a little bit rougher um maybe it's better who knows but we didn't expect it to be two and fifteen

[01:08:34] last year either so um i don't know he's still in the room if he if if he decided he didn't want to

[01:08:41] play anymore then i would get it but yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't hold it against him i guess

[01:08:47] yeah i i know i hear you i i think he'll definitely want to play again because i mean

[01:08:54] what at age thirty two thirty three however old he was last season he had over a thousand yards

[01:09:00] so he can be productive but i think that um i wouldn't be shocked if he goes to Dan Morgan and

[01:09:07] and those guys in his like hey if you can find a trade suitor for me yeah like like more of a

[01:09:13] contender that might want to use me you know as like a number three yeah like slot guy

[01:09:21] hey mate that's my thing it's like if Adam Thieland doesn't want to be here then i don't want him

[01:09:26] here and but i just want us to get something for him if that's the case so anyway we got

[01:09:33] Deontay Johnson Jonathan Mingo ISM those are the three like we're definitely going to have those

[01:09:39] guys Adam Thieland remains to be seen pretty sure DJ chart not going to be back that's not happening

[01:09:48] terraced martial junior that's probably not happening so we got those three guys potentially

[01:09:54] feeling and then we draft maybe an ad Mitchell maybe a Xavier Legate maybe a Xavier worthy

[01:10:02] um Lad McConkey there's a lot of guy like i'm not gonna get ahead of myself man but

[01:10:09] i'm feeling pretty good about this right now um yeah but i said this i know you know what i didn't

[01:10:16] say the same thing because last year last year we were kind of like we were we weren't sold on our

[01:10:24] water seaver room i feel like at this time we were like eh yeah it was one of our it was one of our

[01:10:30] weaker parts i think especially after do you even more have just left yeah and like we had signed

[01:10:36] we signed feeling we signed chart you know we drafted Mingo and we were like uh maybe maybe they

[01:10:44] they maybe they'll surprise us i think i think right now especially now that we traded for Deontay

[01:10:51] Johnson i'm feeling better and and knowing that we're probably going to spend draft capital on

[01:10:56] receiver i'm feeling better i'm feeling pretty good about where we're going the direction we're

[01:11:01] going with the water severs anyway um before we hop off anything else about free agency anything at all

[01:11:11] no i don't think so i think that you know for me we've been doing good things we've been making hard

[01:11:17] and tough decisions uh but we've been able to sign some players who are known and proven commodities

[01:11:23] either just kind of in general or with the individual coaches that that we have here uh or you know

[01:11:28] the GM that we have here and so i think it's been a great couple of days um from uh as a panthers fan

[01:11:36] i don't know how it could have gone much better to be honest with you and um to have the you know

[01:11:45] have another really high second round uh pick is almost you know it's it's it it definitely helps

[01:11:53] i would love uh first to use that for uh you know maybe like uh Brock Bauer's you know not

[01:11:59] necessarily the number the the second round pick but i'd love to see uh some additional um

[01:12:05] you know additional weapons that are being added that's one that i was i was thinking about your

[01:12:09] talking about mcconkey um that you know it would be great to to shore up the tide end we were talking

[01:12:14] about the end time oh yeah absolutely right so um i i'm very interested to see who else were able

[01:12:19] to sign and you know what that means for us in terms of holes that are still left in the draft

[01:12:24] uh when we get to that point and um i'm just excited to see what else we do and starting to see kind

[01:12:29] of the the off season coming together the roster kind of starting to take shape and then

[01:12:33] what you know the the drafters ride around the corner and um then we'll have a little bit better

[01:12:38] picture of how it all shapes out but they they've started making really really good decisions i think

[01:12:44] hard decisions that are not popular necessarily but if you objectively look at it um these decisions

[01:12:50] are leaving us in in a better place than they were then we were at the end of last week and hopefully

[01:12:56] you know they'll continue that momentum and and we'll continue to stay on fire as uh chefters of

[01:13:07] yeah man um so our next episode we're probably going to be uh probably at least a couple weeks

[01:13:18] out but we talked about doing a mock draft episode potentially before the draft gets here so

[01:13:24] we'll see you know it kind of depends on like what else happens and free hc and what we want to talk

[01:13:29] about but um you know it's the off season so we're not trying to do necessarily an episode every

[01:13:34] single week but um we should be back pretty soon uh relatively soon but um yeah that's it i think

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